hulegu ([info]hulegu) wrote,
  • Music: 2005-11-12/BBC Radio 4/From Our Own Correspondent

Turkmen voting for Christmas

I'd like to reassure my readers that I don't spend all my time listening to "From Our Own Correspondent", but once again I'm linking to the programme because there's yet another story from Central Asia.

This time Lucy Ash is describing some dental treatment she had to undergo whilst in Turkmenistan. (BBC audio player / mp3). Now, I'm sure you'll remember that among Turkmenbashi's various diktats there was one banning gold teeth, and also one 86-ing hospitals outside Ashgabat. Therefore, I'm sure you'll feel some shade of sympathy for Ms Ash but, being a foreigner, she has somewhat better access to dental care than your average Turkmen.

In her report Ash refers to a report from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, entitled Human Rights and Health in Turkmenistan (pdf). happy reading.
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Anonymous

November 15 2005, 23:12:13 UTC 6 years ago

What is the origin of the slang term "86" meaning to destroy?
I suspect isn't related to anything that might happen travelling on the London night bus route N86 back to the hell that is Harold Hill. (see, e.g. http://www.fancyapint.com/main_site/thepubs/pub2538.htm)

Really, I'd like to know...

Venichka

[info]hulegu

November 16 2005, 13:37:17 UTC 6 years ago

Well, from my own experience, the term "86" is is most often used in restaurants to describe an item that's been taken off the menu e.g. " ... of today's specials, moules marinieres has been 86-ed because we're out of mussels ... ". When I worked at Belgo, there was an "86 board" in the kitchen-pass area informing waiting staff which items had been 86ed. Indeed, the term "86" seems to have originated initially in restaurants and bars and then been more widely adopted to describe something that's out of action or, more recently, someone who's been sacked/fired.

The origins of the phrase are sketchy; a quick google will bring up all sorts of theories: it refers to the 86th (i.e. top) floor of the Empire State Building, from which suicides leapt; or British merchant ships had a standard crew of 85, so the 86th man was the one who was left behind; or a certain restaurant in New York was No. 86 on whatever street it was on, and ... blah-di-blah-di-blah.

In any case, it's a most excellent phrase; I use it whenever I can.

[info]lessesne

November 16 2005, 14:40:53 UTC 6 years ago

I've had this exact discussion with many folks in the past. Since it is US slang, I should know more about it, but sadly, no. As for the origins, I believe the story about the restaurant in New York is the correct one. The OED suggests that it is a rhyming wordplay on the word "nix". But what the hell do those prescriptivists know?
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